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>> fault lines al jazeera america's hard hitting... >> today they will be arrested... >> ground breaking... they're firing canisters of gas at us... award winning investigative documentary series... the disappearing delta only on al jazeera america reading writing and politics. jeb bush says it's time to loosen the grip of politics on the education system. >> it's going to take a big political fight, monopolies don't go lightly into the night. >> whether she agrees that it's time to get tough on teachers. >> they tie us up and put us in
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vehicles and sat us on the frond front line in vehicles where artillery rounds rained around united us. >> moving into the deadliest laces on earth with camera in hand. this is "real money" and i'm ali velshi. america's public school system fails to make the grade in many ways. what to do about it is where the fierce debate begins. by now you need know the flash poits opinion. points. more charter schools. president obama proposes 5% increase in discretionary funding for the department of education. but most spending is determined at the state and local level so the thinking is that this extra
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federal money will be offset or will offset some of the cuts the states made in recent years. meanwhile, more choice this the form of so-called education savings accounts, this would send state money to hundreds of thousands of families, depending which state we're talking about. parents can then turn around and design their child's education and use that public money for tutors, home schooling even private schooling. 21 states already subsidize schooling through vouchers or tax credits. free public schools that are sometimes operated by private exraiptions privatecorporations. and an increasing full of places seeing the privatization of public education is part of jeb bush's education reform agenda choice. david schuster has our inside
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look at the big changes and big money behind the 2016 presidential contenders. >> if we were designing our school systems from strach, what scratch, what would they look like? >> jeb bush's signature effort. >> it's going to take a big political fight. monopolies do not go quietly into the night. >> and in that funding to take education out of the government's hands, bush created a national initiative, they support opening state education budgets to privately run virtual schools and more choice through digital and online learning. but critics say it's really only a boon for education companies
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looking to cash in on the taxpayer dollars spend on k-12 education. up to $789 billion a year. >> what bush has done is combined both business and politics in pushing education reforms that benefit a small number of for-profit education firms. some of these firms are some of the worst actors in education today, actually under-performing some of the worst public schools. >> for profit schools like k-12 inc. can now be found in 34 states and the district of columbia. the enrollment and revenue of these firmings firms have nearly quadrupled since 2008 but have graduation rates below state averages. and in the past year they have lost managements contracts or been threatened with shut downs in several states.
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>> the bottom line is the thing they are most concerned with and in many cases the bottom line conflicts with what we consider good education. >> despite the industry's mixed outcomes, experts say nobody answer'sbeen more instrumental in big business than jeb bush. >> if jeb bush holds a meeting people are going to come. far more than lobbying and comparison contributions it's access. >> bush and his foundation sit at the center of a complicated web of money and policy. take the state of maine as an example which began considering privately run virtual schools in 2011. companies like k-12 inc. donated money to bush's election campaign, and steven bowen, a member of bush's for change group. part of the american legislative
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council or alec unites government officials. >> it is a joy to be with alec this is the fountain head of a lot of interesting ideas. >> forming the education agenda in 2011 and that same year many alec bills that allowed privately run schools passed in the state house. jeb bush declined comment and stepped down from his position earlier this year to concentrate on his run. but demonstrated gains in achievement and blow-average test scores can be attributed to a disproportionate amount of low income students and those already underperforming at other schools. still analysts say bush's role in expanding corporate-run schools could prompt some voters
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to give him a failing grade. >> when you look at the words for profit and you put them before things that didn't really have to do with profit, you could see for profit education, at an elementary and high school level that in and of itself is saying, here is a robber baron, that should be capitalizing on things that should not be about making money. it is one of the problems that romney had in 2012 and one of the problems jeb bush circulate have if it looks like he's going to run in 2016. >> david, for profit schools voucher schools, are these burning issues for enough voters that this is going to help jeb bush in terms of hurting him? >> it could hurt him in a big way. democrats say look education should not be for profit. and bush says improve k-12 by
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having for profit firms and that would be a fundamental choice. but here is where it would hurt him in the primary, jeb bush supports comor common core, he is an outlier in the republican field for that he will get hammered in the primaries on education for that. then for profit will take him to the general election. >> does he just play this down in the nomination process? >> well, that's the interesting thing is he's promoting this. he's promoting this like he is promoting immigration accredit reform, he says look we as republicans we agree that education has to be improved. we can use conservative economic principles to do that. through things he has demonstrated in florida, this hasn't really improved the test scores of the students involved. >> david, thank you so much for that. next, randy
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winegarten says, the are the unions sang in the way of progress? you'll hear about that. and the lindsay adario will tell us why she risked life and love to tell her story. tweet me @alivelshi, keep it >> america's first climate refugees >> this is probably a hurricane away from it being gone. >> who's to blame? >> 36% of land lost was caused by oil and gas industry... >> ...and a fight to save america's coastline. >> we have kinda made a deal with the devil >> fault lines al jazeera america's hard hitting... >> today they will be arrested... >> ground breaking... they're firing canisters of gas at us... award winning investigative documentary series... the disappearing delta only on al jazeera america >> an al jazeera america special report >> unfortunately, you can't
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>> wanted to continue the conversation we're having on education. jeb bush says the biggest impediment to education rornl reform are federal government and teachers union. randy wine garden. she says that wush talks a good game about wanting what's best for students but he's just siphoning much needed public money into private hands.
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randy, always good to see you. let me ask you this. he has whether you agree with his methodology or not, had made education for low income people a priority and he's brought a lot of attention to that cause. he's talking more about it than any republican presidential candidates do in any detail. what's your biggest issue with what he's saying? >> look i love that he's talking about it but think about it. you can't actually improve schools if you don't talk to the school teachers. so then when you make what the school teachers voice is, you know, your biggest biggest biggest enemy then you're basically saying you just want to pit and divide. economy. there are a lot of people in the republican party that love that the economy works for some. and there are many of us that say wait a second, we have to make the economy work for all. we have to have that ladder of economic growth for all. for anybody who wants to pull
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themselves up the same is true in terms of schools. you can find a niche market, you can point to a school or two that can work for anybody. look at all the private schools in america. our job is for everybody. and what happens when half the kids in our united states of america who go to public schools are now poor, when we have more segregation in the last two decades than less then we need to actually help all kids. and this is a really sad secret. which is that when you actually factor out part poverty, our schools are the best in the world. >> absolutely. >> and i loved when he watched the section beforehand when k-12 inc. which is a for-profit company that does terribly, when somebody says why are you doing so terribly, they're like poor kids, why are we not reclaiming the promise of public education,. >> kids were not porpg in the first
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performing inthe first place. at the speech he gave at the education summit in november he had something to say about teachers unions. listen to this. >> i know one thing, we wouldn't start with more than 13,000 government run politicized monopolies who trap good teachers and administrators in a system you can't escape. >> first off let me say this. mr. bush if he's going to run for president he should have his facts right. half the schools in the united states of america don't have unions and the three states that are most unionized are the three states that do the best. so let's stop demonizing people who want to work and make a difference in the lives of kids and the hardest thing is let's work together to turn around struggling schools as opposed to doing the opt outs that mr. bush did. because the things he did in florida didn't work.
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>> let's talk about the stuff that jeb bush and other conservatives always have to say about teachers unions. you are here in new york so you know what somebody's accusations are. teachers this cannot be released from their jobs, tenure, rubber rooms, where teachers who are low performers end up coming to work and sitting in a classroom. those things tend to get stuck in people's craw. can we not maintain our focus on public education and clearly get rid of teachers we need to get rid of? >> you're right. both michael mulgrew my successor and i tried close the rubber rooms, both with mayor bloomberg and mayor deblasio. but you can't have process that goes on forever and teaching can't be perceived as a job for life. but at the end of the day, what
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we need to do is make sure we actually recruit retain and support the best. because our biggest problem is half our teachers leave within the first five years and our really big problem is that we have to actually attract and retain great teachers -- judge is it the money? is it the system? maybe we do need a little bit more of a merit based system as opposed to a time on the job based system. >> what we've tried to do is do both which is to actually negotiate career ladders. so that when people are in the system for a little while if they want to do other things they can get additional pay to do those other things or they want to be master teachers or they want to help. what is really unfortunate ali is the unions throughout the country whether it's new york city who did this amazing new contract with mayor deblasio or the abc system or new haven we've done really good things because we want to make sure we're research based more
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importantly that we're helping every child succeed. so unfortunately, the people who don't want to spend money on public schools would rather blame teachers and their voice than actually roll up their sleeves to do the work we have to do to help all kids succeed. when people say we actually have to help and work on teachers being the best they can be we're all in. >> thank you very much. randy winegarten is the president of the federation of teachers. she survived two kidnappings and more and still went back for more even after she got pregnant. the story you can't believe and you will hear it in just two minutes. >> tomorrow morning, diplomat and author nassir abdulaziz al-nasser. >> when there is consensus you'll see great results. >> battling extremism.
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>> well, the subject of journalists dictate and war zones are in the news for all the wrong reasons. i'm talking of course about the controversy about nbc news anchor brian williams and what didn't happen to him in iraq. my next guest is a photojournalist who has covered conflict across the globe for 15 years. lindsay adario, all happened before she and three colleagues from the new york times were kidnapped in libya during 2011. i spoke to lindsay's husband paul de bendern. who is also a journalist. >> when you hear from her next what are you going to say to her? >> i'm going to say you know you got to come back here because you know we got to have kids
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you know? that's my -- i've been trying to you know to get her to you know come back. >> well, that interview and the happy story of the birth of paul and lindsay's son in december of 2011 are part of her fascinating new book, "it's what i do" a photographer's story of life and love in war. lindsay, it's exciting to see you and talk with you all in the past tense because when i talked with paul it was pretty intense. >> it is something that makes me pretty emotional. >> you know, for him saying that to the world -- >> i was sort of in denial for the time it was for me to have a baby. i kept procrastinating. it's a hard subject for a professional woman. >> your story has been sort of nonstop. you femme in love with the
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camera your dad gave you and you sought out as any journalist would, you had your baby and still gone on. >> i'm trying a way to navigate the train, i don't know many female war correspondents that have children, it's happening more and more but there are not many role models. i was in afghanistan three times last year and in iraq two times but i'm trying to stay away from the front line. trying to cover more civilian stories, refugees, things that i can mitigate the danger. >> if you didn't have to try and mitigate it, if you didn't have to navigate this new terrain wouldn't things have been different? because things would be different, the idea of a moth to a flame has gotten people killed. >> even if i didn't have a son the terrain has changed incredibly. game.
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there is no negotiating with i.s.i.s. surely journalists are not respected, we can't go into a war zone and assume we have some kind of protection because of our job. that is something i really did used to feel. i felt that in afghanistan and in the early days in iraq and so i think that has really changed. >> in fact journalists used to not with pride but it was a note of safety with the vest or hat that says press. now, a lot of people say don't show your affiliations. >> now i go into a war zone and i'm dressed in a head scarf and try to look at local as i can. >> knowing that some of them have it on spec, many of them are not employed, as you were not in the early days, you would sell your material to others. news organizations that know that that's less risky for them than sending their own people. how do you feel about that? >> it's a hard subject. first of all i've never been
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staff anywhere, i'm still freelance. i'm at a point where i've been through so much that i will only work for organizations that have my back. i know if something happens to me they will try get me out, do what they can. there are something publications that say, you go on in your own and sell it to me. organizations that buy from freelancers need to up the price or give freelancers some kind of security. >> what kind of security can they offer? when you were kidnapped you had two things for you. you were kidnapped by sort of a quasigovernment organization, i don't know how that helps these days and had you new york times media. did you know that people were working actively to get you out? judge no, in prison it was the first time -- >> no, in prison it was the first time our blind folds were
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off and we were saying, do you think anyone even knows we're gone, that was day two or three and really, i think it was tyler who said, of course we are four new york times correspondents and to me i thought, god does anyone even know we're gone? you're in such a bubble and when you are being held captive you have no idea what's going on in the outside world. you can't make any assumptions about what's happening. >> and there were some scary moments. you were paraded -- first of all they shot your driver. >> we don't know if he was shot in cross fire or executed. because no one saw it. >> then you were paraded through towns. >> the first three days were incredibly violent. we were told to lie face down on the ground. they were going to execute us. they put their guns oour heads. they decided they weren't going to execute us, they tied us up and sat us on front lines in
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vehicles where artillery rained around us. fighting got so close at some point, they decided to shift our position. then we spent a night in the car, we don't know where, they threatened us repeatedly with executing us and were hitting my male colleagues, and i was groped so many times. eventually we were thrown into the back of a pickup truck tide up blind fooded and -- tied up and blind blindfolded and driven in the back of a pickup truck and every 45 minutes or so a mass of men would descend on us and beat us up and the driver would continue driving saying, you dogs, scream horrible things at us. those moments are terrifying because if a mob decides they want to kill you, you're dead. as every single pass of that kidnapping we had no idea we would survive. >> what happens when you hear
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about these journalists and others who are being held, you know they are being held, you have sense more than i would of what they're going through. >> it's horrible. i look at them and first of all i think god we were so lucky. we really at the end of the day for all the horrible things that happened to us and tragically happened to our driver, what's happening now is entirely different. people are being beheaded on tv and the videos are being sent out across the world and to be a parent watching that video, to be a friend or a wife or you know it's a horrible thing. >> lindsay i'm going to pass on a question i keep getting asked this stuff about brian williams, i'm waiting for more information to come out and understand what's happening. the fog of war or the aggrandizement of covering wars. what is making you think? >> i don't know. it's hard for me to comment on it just because no one really knows exactly what happened.
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but i do know that things move very quickly in war zones and sometimes, you have to check your memory. you have to talk to your colleagues. i mean even in writing this book i went back and sent my chapters, i sent the libya chapter to steve farrell and tyler hicks and says does all of this check out with you? because you don't want your imagination to take over and replace reality with fantasy. so it is very important to double check. and i think when people become if he veil -- very famous, maybe no one wants to challenge them and editors have to be diligent and people around that person. for me as a photographer i can't make stuff up because i'm going there with a camera and i'm there to bear witness. and i can't, unfortunately i can't stay back i have to be right there on the front. >> thank you for bearing witness, i have to be there sometimes more than others. that day when i interviewed your
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husband we didn't know where you were and i'm glad that was panned out. lindsay adario, it's what i do aa photographer's life and apher's life and hello, i'm ray suarez, harper lee published one novel "to kill a mockingbird." it's been printed millions of times around the world in the past 50 years. now it turns out lee had another book in her, and it comes out this summer. continuing the story of scout, sttacus finch, boo radially and tom robinson who came to life in the hollywood classic. months away from its release, it's

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